The Smell Test

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The Smell Test

Post by Acromyrmexbob » Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:35 pm

One of the best determinants of fungal health is the smell test. When I have a load of colonies back from Central America there seems to be a direct correlation between the health of the fungus and the smell coming from the container containing the nest. This is because if the fungus is dying, or there is a build up of waste immediately near the fungus, the ants will not necessarily remove it to a safe distance but sometimes they will simply separate it from the fungus by a few cm. If the tub has been closed then the ants are forced to do this but sometimes this waste can combine with a very damp substrate and the whole tub can 'go off'. Health fungus smells amazing, like fruit or has a 'rainforesty' smell about it. When you smell a little ammonia, emergency!! This ammonia smell will kill the fungus very very quickly. When I smell this I change tubs and substrate immediately. Can't tell you how many times this rule has saved a colony, especially when there are over 100 of them and the time you have for each one is limited. Its a simple, fool proof health test.

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Re: The Smell Test

Post by Deansie26 » Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:10 pm

I've a real urge now to going a smell what a rainforest smell is, must resist.... lol.

I has some issues with a previous set up in that waste fungus was being dumped in same area as damp soil this with poor ventilation usually equalled mites and on one occasion it grew a nice white fluffy coat over the old fungus lol, stinky stuff.

Will be sure to use the smell test in future if in doubt Andrew :)

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Re: The Smell Test

Post by Acromyrmexbob » Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:08 pm

I do not think these are mites. I think they are something else. I will post when I have more info on this.

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Re: The Smell Test

Post by Acromyrmexbob » Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:31 pm

I think I remember talking to Adam about this, hopefully he will make a comment

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Re: The Smell Test

Post by Deansie26 » Sat Dec 05, 2015 12:01 am

I find it amazing that these things can just appear, like out if thin air!!!

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Re: The Smell Test

Post by Acromyrmexbob » Sat Dec 05, 2015 8:20 pm

They are present in the wild. They are natural commensals found in the nests. Its just that, in captivity, they can get to very large numbers indeed.

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Re: The Smell Test

Post by AdamHartScience » Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:54 pm

There's a very distinct 'wrong' smell about a sick colony. It goes from 'vegetable' to 'chemical' if that makes sense?

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Post by Deansie26 » Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:05 pm

AdamHartScience wrote:There's a very distinct 'wrong' smell about a sick colony. It goes from 'vegetable' to 'chemical' if that makes sense?
That makes total sense (to me anyway) can you add to the mite thing Adam?

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Re: The Smell Test

Post by AdamHartScience » Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:17 pm

I did some research a while back on leaving waste in colonies and we found a buildup of mites. Couldn't work out if they were harmful though

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Re: The Smell Test

Post by Jackie62 » Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:28 am

I found lots of mites in the dump tank when I was cleaning it out a while back. They don't seem to have had an effect on the colony though. I checked out the animals out under a microscope and they were definitely mites. Haven't seen them again and can't think what their appearance was related to.

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